Suicide

08/12/2014 — 14 Comments

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Suicide is a sin against God and a crime against society that carries its own penalty. Death! Is it the ultimate act of a coward? Someone else will have to answer that. Is it a sign of boredom, a cry for attention, an act meant to punish others or is it an escape from a life of trying to live up to the expectations of the public?

Recent events have given some credence to the later.

If someone is dubbed a genius, it must be a terrible existence to live up to this hype! Always “On!” Never allowed to be anything ordinary but only what people believe you are, and are paying you to be! And it must be disappointing, too. Having everything you say considered genius, simply because you said it. Having to constantly exhibit the behavior of a figment of the public’s imagination! Elvis said it best; “It’s hard to live up to an ‘image.”

I have never had this problem because I differentiate between my stage persona and my private persona! And, thank God, no one has ever accused me of being a genius! Albert Einstein is considered a genius and probably was, but he did not do math. (Having never had higher education.) He developed theories that his wife Elsa Einstein, being an educated woman, proved her husband’s theories by doing the math!

The public builds myths around people that are not only untrue, but damaging to the person in question.

I am already way in over my head on this subject, so I had better sign out!

I am Kip Addotta

My American Indian name is “One Who Annoys”

 

14 responses to Suicide

  1. There is an antidote to prevent one from committing suicide (or I presume since I cannot understand that mindset). It is to live modestly and as righteous as you can. Do not waste your life chasing money, fame and hedonistic pleasures. New information is coming out about recent events that suggest financial woes played a part. Totally avoidable by living without excess. Yes, I am a zealot for developing one’s spiritual being as our physical existence on earth is temporary.

    • Tommy Joseph 08/13/2014 at 04:29

      Thank you Al, I agree. I don’t want to sound mean, but sometimes I find myself getting angry at driven people. But nothing will ever change them. Nothing is enough. No matter how stupid and annoying the public may be (that us), I do not see it as responsible in any way for Williams death, nor do I believe it put any undue pressure on Williams. He did that himself. Thank you Al. I posted my thoughts on this matter before reading the 3 that came before it. When I got to yours and saw those first few words I though, “Wow, finally, here’s somebody who has their eyes open.” Then I saw your name and thought, “Oh no, please”, does this mean I must humble myself before Al and tell him that I agree with him? Yes, I modestly concur.

      TJ

  2. James Linaras 08/12/2014 at 22:27

    That post was pure… Seriously…thank you for shedding the proverbial light on an obviously dark subject. I never really thought of it in those terms. Once again Kip, you’ve opened my eyes even wider.

  3. Well said Kip. Nicole Tesla was a genius, but was considered as a mad man, crazy as a loon. Where did his genius of electronics come from? I can understand some people’s desire to leave this crazy world behind. My mom, at 80, wanted to die, she fell asleep in a nursing home one night. I have her picture on FB soon before her rest. She said over and over that she wanted to go be with Jesus.

  4. Very well put Kip ..

  5. Depression has nothing to do with any of your choices in life. It’s physiological, like diabetes. You could be an asshole, a crook, a saint, a funny person, a jerk, wealthy, successful, or a complete loser and your depression would be exactly the same no matter what. You can’t choose to not be depressed any more than you can choose not to have cancer. Depression isn’t sadness, it’s something else entirely. It’s a persistent state of torture that never subsides until you are unconscious. It’s like living in a nightmare from which you can never wake up. You could win the lottery, or Jesus could come back, or whatever and you would still feel the same. Thinking somebody should snap out of it or “not be so selfish” shows ignorance and borders on idiotic. Robin Williams endured this for 63 years. How long would you last? I’m guessing not so long. And I don’t mean “you,” Kip. I mean anybody. The man was no coward.

    • Tommy Joseph 08/13/2014 at 23:59

      Response for Zack:

      I for one am not saying Williams was a coward. Lots of people endure depression, and if they wind up killing themselves I’m not going to debate whether they are cowardly or courageous for doing it.

      As for your question, “How long would you take it?”, I suppose the answer would be, “As long as I have to.” I would never call a person who commits suicide a coward. I don’t like using words like ‘coward’ or ‘hero’. Those are terms that can be applied to the same person in the same day.

      But if forced to choose, I would say it takes more guts than cowardice to kill one’s self. Either way, let’s face it, this is a media driven world, and now Williams’ death will be used as an advertisement for anti-depression pills in the same way a famous person’s death in a car crash could be used as an advertisement against drinking and driving – or driving without a seat belt – or while texting or talking on the cellphone.

      All I see is in Williams is a guy who lived and is now dead, not some opportunity to make a point or sell something. Although, I cannot deny it – I must say it – I do enjoy when famous people die. I enjoy reading the slew of sad comments from others in the same field. The schmaltz of it entertains me greatly. It helps relieve my minor depression, at least temporarily. I am serious and not in the least ashamed to say it. All news is entertainment, no matter how tragic or horrifying. When people’s eyes are glued to the tv or computer screen or buried in a newspaper to get the same information over and over, it has gone from news to entertainment – and it doesn’t take long for it to happen – and there is nothing wrong with it.

      TJ

  6. Tommy Joseph 08/13/2014 at 04:22

    I do not blame the public in any way for Williams death and do not think for one minute they put pressure on him to always be on. I always saw Williams as an ultra driven person. People who are ultra driven are never satisfied. The public did not create that in Williams, it was his own doing.

    Why he killed himself I do not know. But I do know, for sure, just from seeing him a few times in person and quite a few times on tv and so forth that he was an ultra driven person. Most ultra driven people are depressed. I know a few guys who are ultra driven, they have their hands in everything, a big bagful of never ending endeavors, and most of them take anti depressants.

    William’s death will become a good commercial for the pharmaceutical industry, you can bet on that. They will play the depression angle to the hilt.

    I can speak only for myself. I have a mild form of depression. I believe it is mild because I am not ultra driven and try to keep things simple for myself – a nobody of sorts and proud of it. Speaking strictly for myself I can say that no matter how badly depressed I might become I will never take prescription drugs for it. Who knows, those zany pills may even have helped Williams make his ultimate and final decision in life.

    TJ

  7. STEVE EPSTEIN 08/13/2014 at 05:10

    I posted on FB a somewhat negative perspective on what I considered the selfishness of someone’s (not mentioning any names) suicide. I took it down within 10 minutes because I lost my guts. I somehow had a feeling that you would have had a similar perspective. I was also pretty sure if you decided to post it it would still be here because if there is one thing I know about Mr. Addotta it is… he has guts to spare.

  8. Well TJ, I will give everyone the facts and let them decide his motive. I’ve read recent interview with the man and he was bemoaning his alleged “financial problems” such as paying alimony and being unable to afford his $30 million ranch plus the fact he had to return to doing television (which was recently cancelled after a lowly rated and failed season. His ratings went from 15 million the first show to 10 the second week finishing at 5 million).

    In contrast Uncle Kippy proudly states he has made thousands of television appearances, didn’t cheat on his wives and saved his money instead of living over his head. Which man is to be admired?

    Williams should of been worried about forgiveness for his sins of adultery instead of money it cost him. I had no emotional involvement with him and am merely stating facts. It is a pity he chose to mock the faithful in his standup instead of selling his soul for fleeting fame and fortune.

    • Tommy Joseph 08/14/2014 at 00:08

      Al, believe me, I was not a big fan of the man myself. I know what you’re saying. I don’t care about the adultery, never heard of it till now. I don’t care about anyone’s chosen lifestyle. All I can say, and probably the only reason I’m here talking about this in the first place, is that I genuinely enjoy it when famous people die, I find the hoopla entertaining. But I don’t dig into like most people. I get the papers. I get my news a day late. I want it that way. Nice and easy. Like taking a country road that parallels the interstate, sometimes veering 50 or more miles away from it, and the speed limit is not as high but the road is clear and I’ll be in Scotland before ye.

      Williams had every right to do with his life as he saw fit, including taking it. That does not bother or offend me. However, for some reason, whatever it may be, I am disgusted by overly driven people. Maybe the world needs such people. But I have trouble understanding them. I want things to. I’ll swing at a pitch if comes my way but I’m not buying a ticket to the ball park. I want to hit the lottery but don’t want to buy the ticket. I am the opposite of driven. Maybe in my own way I am as disgusting as the driven people I can’t understand. But I doubt it. I not only live within my means, I live below them.

      TJ

  9. Interesting point about Albert Einstein. Don’t know if he was a genius or not, but I assume he didn’t steal his theories, because I’ve never heard anyone accuse Einstein of theft. Now If I read someone being accused of theft by many. many people over the course of 30 or 35 years I assume that person is indeed a thief and definitely not a genius.

    • Tommy Joseph 08/14/2014 at 00:11

      Al, the topic of genius interests me. I believe there are all sorts of geniuses. Some are lucky enough to have a single outlet like mathematics or physics or whatever. Others are not. I am a semi genius. A full genius takes complex things and makes them simple. I take simple things and make them complex. But even that in it’s own way may serve a purpose of some sort, so maybe my genius will not go unfulfilled after all.

      TJ

    • Tommy Joseph 08/14/2014 at 22:36

      “Now If I read someone being accused of theft by many. many people over the course of 30 or 35 years I assume that person is indeed a thief and definitely not a genius.” ………. Al Clark

      I agree with you, that guy is a thief – a genius thief. Being a genius does not come with specific demands on how it is to be used – or not used. I think the term ‘genius’ is overused these days. Maybe it always has been.

      Kip says he doesn’t trust people with too many friends. I agree with that as well. The same applies to too many geniuses. Too many of anything and it loses it’s punch. Like me, now – too many words. So I’ll end it here.

      No Tommy, don’t – please don’t “end it”.

      TJ

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